Comments on: what does church look like? part two http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2004/08/29/what-does-church-look-like-part-two/ theophile | bibliophile | technophile Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:00:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: david http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2004/08/29/what-does-church-look-like-part-two/#comment-52 david Thu, 02 Sep 2004 16:10:08 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=22#comment-52 What do you all think of the the premise that the gifts are for whoever is in front of you at any given moment? That this may be the truest model of community; serving whichever sojourning heart is in the direct crosshairs of your sacrificial love in a moment. This of course assumes that a) you will be able to apply your gift somehow to every relationship that is brought into focus, and b) targets are moved in and out of reach over time. sense? What do you all think of the the premise that the gifts are for whoever is in front of you at any given moment? That this may be the truest model of community; serving whichever sojourning heart is in the direct crosshairs of your sacrificial love in a moment. This of course assumes that a) you will be able to apply your gift somehow to every relationship that is brought into focus, and b) targets are moved in and out of reach over time. sense?

]]> By: Zach http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2004/08/29/what-does-church-look-like-part-two/#comment-49 Zach Thu, 02 Sep 2004 07:37:42 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=22#comment-49 my head hurts, i need to go back to angels and deamons. my head hurts, i need to go back to angels and deamons.

]]> By: pastor draven http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2004/08/29/what-does-church-look-like-part-two/#comment-42 pastor draven Mon, 30 Aug 2004 00:08:45 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=22#comment-42 Good thoughts Lucy :) John - Sorry about the abundance of recommending that book. I forget who I've recommended it to. It's a paradigm changing book, and surprisingly written in the 60's. My mom just finished reading it and couldn't stop talking about what it said when I saw her today. Ever since I read it, and having done the class she talked about in the book, I've noticed that everytime someone talks about gifts and/or community concerninig the Church, I think of Church of the Savior and that book. Good thoughts Lucy :)

John - Sorry about the abundance of recommending that book. I forget who I’ve recommended it to. It’s a paradigm changing book, and surprisingly written in the 60’s. My mom just finished reading it and couldn’t stop talking about what it said when I saw her today. Ever since I read it, and having done the class she talked about in the book, I’ve noticed that everytime someone talks about gifts and/or community concerninig the Church, I think of Church of the Savior and that book.

]]> By: Lucy http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2004/08/29/what-does-church-look-like-part-two/#comment-41 Lucy Sun, 29 Aug 2004 16:34:08 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=22#comment-41 When I think of the gifts being for the benefit of all, I dont think that means just in one community, but the whole community of the church, the body of Christ. In the sense that a prophet's role is to take god's message to wherever called, not simply the community he is part of. Pastor is to offer his pastoral gifts to any who need it, not just his closest immediate community. It's nowhere near happening in the current church though. Other things dont have to happen in the same immediate community. Prayer and help for a community on the other side of the world for example. Lucy When I think of the gifts being for the benefit of all, I dont think that means just in one community, but the whole community of the church, the body of Christ.

In the sense that a prophet’s role is to take god’s message to wherever called, not simply the community he is part of.

Pastor is to offer his pastoral gifts to any who need it, not just his closest immediate community.

It’s nowhere near happening in the current church though.

Other things dont have to happen in the same immediate community. Prayer and help for a community on the other side of the world for example.

Lucy

]]> By: john http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2004/08/29/what-does-church-look-like-part-two/#comment-40 john Sun, 29 Aug 2004 16:31:43 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=22#comment-40 Between email, comments here, and your site, I think that's about the fifth time you've recommended that book! Perhaps I need to take the hint! I've added it to my wish list on Amazon...baby steps! Between email, comments here, and your site, I think that’s about the fifth time you’ve recommended that book! Perhaps I need to take the hint! I’ve added it to my wish list on Amazon…baby steps!

]]> By: pastor draven http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2004/08/29/what-does-church-look-like-part-two/#comment-39 pastor draven Sun, 29 Aug 2004 16:30:21 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=22#comment-39 I really think you would enjoy <i>Journey Inward, Journey Outward</i> by Elizabeth O'Connor. I really think you would enjoy Journey Inward, Journey Outward by Elizabeth O’Connor.

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