Comments on: true humanity http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2004/09/29/true-humanity/ theophile | bibliophile | technophile Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:09:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: pastor draven http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2004/09/29/true-humanity/comment-page-1/#comment-156 pastor draven Sat, 02 Oct 2004 04:09:13 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=63#comment-156 shalom - perfect peace, wholeness, prosperity, welfare, tranquility, safety, health, contentment, success, comfort, and integrity; nothing broken, nothing lacking. The Eastern mindset tends to be much more holistic (wholistic, all inclusive and circular) than the West (hellenistic, compartmentalized and linear). shalom - perfect peace, wholeness, prosperity, welfare, tranquility, safety, health, contentment, success, comfort, and integrity; nothing broken, nothing lacking.

The Eastern mindset tends to be much more holistic (wholistic, all inclusive and circular) than the West (hellenistic, compartmentalized and linear).

]]> By: Gary http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2004/09/29/true-humanity/comment-page-1/#comment-155 Gary Sat, 02 Oct 2004 02:44:03 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=63#comment-155 The book is called "Not the Way It's Supposed to Be" (sorry I have no idea how to do hyperlinks). I would definitely recommend it. "Shalom" does mean peace, but so much more than just peace from war. It's the Jewish greeting (Hence Paul's "Grace and peace to you...") and represented a state of well being and goodness. The prophets spoke of eternal shalom, and a humble king who would bring shalom. The Messiah was to be the prince of shalom. In light of that, not only is true humanity just the cessation of hostilities between us and God through Christ (who according to Paul is our peace - the Greek isn't shalom, but I think he had that in mind, Eph 2:14), but being made complete, fully human(as draven said). True humanity was always meant to be one of experiencing shalom. I have no idea if that makes sense or not. But let me know and I'll try to clarify. The book is called “Not the Way It’s Supposed to Be” (sorry I have no idea how to do hyperlinks). I would definitely recommend it. “Shalom” does mean peace, but so much more than just peace from war. It’s the Jewish greeting (Hence Paul’s “Grace and peace to you…”) and represented a state of well being and goodness. The prophets spoke of eternal shalom, and a humble king who would bring shalom. The Messiah was to be the prince of shalom. In light of that, not only is true humanity just the cessation of hostilities between us and God through Christ (who according to Paul is our peace - the Greek isn’t shalom, but I think he had that in mind, Eph 2:14), but being made complete, fully human(as draven said). True humanity was always meant to be one of experiencing shalom. I have no idea if that makes sense or not. But let me know and I’ll try to clarify.

]]> By: john http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2004/09/29/true-humanity/comment-page-1/#comment-154 john Fri, 01 Oct 2004 23:34:16 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=63#comment-154 What book are you referring to Gary? What book are you referring to Gary?

]]> By: jamie http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2004/09/29/true-humanity/comment-page-1/#comment-153 jamie Fri, 01 Oct 2004 23:30:29 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=63#comment-153 I once read (and am not sure if it is true) that "shalom" meant peace after war. Interesting if you picture true humanity linked with the peace that Jesus fought to bring between us and God I once read (and am not sure if it is true) that “shalom” meant peace after war. Interesting if you picture true humanity linked with the peace that Jesus fought to bring between us and God

]]> By: Gary http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2004/09/29/true-humanity/comment-page-1/#comment-152 Gary Fri, 01 Oct 2004 23:23:18 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=63#comment-152 I think of the word "shalom" and the full implications that are carried with it. Neo Plantinga has a good book on it... I think of the word “shalom” and the full implications that are carried with it. Neo Plantinga has a good book on it…

]]> By: pastor draven http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2004/09/29/true-humanity/comment-page-1/#comment-151 pastor draven Fri, 01 Oct 2004 22:10:43 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=63#comment-151 IT sounds a bit racist, slightly Nazi, and very seperatist when standing on its own, apart from context. However, to say that we strive to become "fully human", or "truly human", is a more inclusive statement that begs the definition of what "human" was meant or is suppose to be. IT sounds a bit racist, slightly Nazi, and very seperatist when standing on its own, apart from context. However, to say that we strive to become “fully human”, or “truly human”, is a more inclusive statement that begs the definition of what “human” was meant or is suppose to be.

]]> By: john http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2004/09/29/true-humanity/comment-page-1/#comment-146 john Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:57:51 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=63#comment-146 please...not everyone at once please…not everyone at once

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