Comments on: postmodern children’s ministry http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2005/02/20/postmodern-childrens-ministry/ theophile | bibliophile | technophile Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:30:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Margie Hillenbrand http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2005/02/20/postmodern-childrens-ministry/#comment-5180 Margie Hillenbrand Thu, 02 Jun 2005 01:42:48 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=200#comment-5180 I'm part of a church plant and looking for discussions about kids in emerging churches. I was excited about Postmodern Children's Ministry. I very much appreciated Ivy's observations and her questions. Very prophetic. As Ken said, "Post-modernity is a reality we live in... She knows that the children growing up in today’s children’s ministries are post-moderns. Sadly most of their teachers are not." Lots and lots of changes... Margie I’m part of a church plant and looking for discussions about kids in emerging churches. I was excited about Postmodern Children’s Ministry. I very much appreciated Ivy’s observations and her questions. Very prophetic. As Ken said, “Post-modernity is a reality we live in… She knows that the children growing up in today’s children’s ministries are post-moderns. Sadly most of their teachers are not.” Lots and lots of changes…

Margie

]]> By: Ken http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2005/02/20/postmodern-childrens-ministry/#comment-2250 Ken Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:41:17 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=200#comment-2250 I have read this book. I have also been in communication with the author. She's great and right on. Post-modernity is a reality we live in. She knows this. She knows that the children growing up in today's children's ministries are post-moderns. Sadly most of their teachers are not. These are the types of issues addressed in the text, I definitely recommend it. I am wanting to implement even more experiential lessons and curriculum in children's ministry. The author definitely is trying to do that and not ride the Po-Mo title bandwagon. Just had to share my thoughts. Ken I have read this book. I have also been in communication with the author. She’s great and right on.

Post-modernity is a reality we live in. She knows this. She knows that the children growing up in today’s children’s ministries are post-moderns. Sadly most of their teachers are not.

These are the types of issues addressed in the text, I definitely recommend it.

I am wanting to implement even more experiential lessons and curriculum in children’s ministry. The author definitely is trying to do that and not ride the Po-Mo title bandwagon.

Just had to share my thoughts.

Ken

]]> By: Doug Smith http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2005/02/20/postmodern-childrens-ministry/#comment-2037 Doug Smith Mon, 07 Mar 2005 17:50:33 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=200#comment-2037 ...what about the "lost" concept (and truth) of kids having NOT a "junior" or watered-down version of the power of God via His Holy Spirit, just because they are small and young... Imagine... raising a whole generation of the Body of Christ by nurturing and teaching the kids about Who lives inside them, and what that means. What if kids (yes, kids!) discover what their spiritual gifts are now, learn about them (on an age-appropiate level), and begin to walk in them ... NOW! Good God (yes He is!), would that not rock the church, and the world?! There is a stone-cold revolution waiting to happen... Now maturity & wisdom are a whole 'nother couple of concepts that needs to be in place to be "guardrails" for the kids moving down the highway to the Kingdom. That has to come from those in charge... Are we up to the task? Take a look at yourself, your level of maturity in faith at your current age, and imagine your kids, or those you have in your charge BEGINNING at their tender age, where you and I are now, and just imagine the possiblities - let it sink in for a couple of minutes! Is our mindset already there, are is it something we need to recallibrate? ...imagine... -luv to all ~D …what about the “lost” concept (and truth) of kids having NOT a “junior” or watered-down version of the power of God via His Holy Spirit, just because they are small and young…

Imagine… raising a whole generation of the Body of Christ by nurturing and teaching the kids about Who lives inside them, and what that means. What if kids (yes, kids!) discover what their spiritual gifts are now, learn about them (on an age-appropiate level), and begin to walk in them … NOW! Good God (yes He is!), would that not rock the church, and the world?! There is a stone-cold revolution waiting to happen…

Now maturity & wisdom are a whole ‘nother couple of concepts that needs to be in place to be “guardrails” for the kids moving down the highway to the Kingdom. That has to come from those in charge… Are we up to the task?

Take a look at yourself, your level of maturity in faith at your current age, and imagine your kids, or those you have in your charge BEGINNING at their tender age, where you and I are now, and just imagine the possiblities - let it sink in for a couple of minutes!

Is our mindset already there, are is it something we need to recallibrate?

…imagine…

-luv to all

~D

]]> By: tk http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2005/02/20/postmodern-childrens-ministry/#comment-1817 tk Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:12:18 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=200#comment-1817 thanks for the recco and the link to Silvin's post. I just forwarded the link onto some of our children's ministry team. TK thanks for the recco and the link to Silvin’s post. I just forwarded the link onto some of our children’s ministry team.

TK

]]> By: Dean http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2005/02/20/postmodern-childrens-ministry/#comment-1776 Dean Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:52:57 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=200#comment-1776 Off Topic - Just saw your hit count map. Your getting action in Indonesia! Wow! What's up with that? Off Topic - Just saw your hit count map. Your getting action in Indonesia! Wow! What’s up with that?

]]> By: marko http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2005/02/20/postmodern-childrens-ministry/#comment-1773 marko Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:30:28 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=200#comment-1773 we really struggled with the title and considered several other ideas -- we were worried that "postmodern children's ministry" would come off as cheesy. but in the end, we decided to keep it parallel to Tony Jones' "postmodern youth ministry" (shoot, Tony and Ivy even worked at the same church!). we really struggled with the title and considered several other ideas — we were worried that “postmodern children’s ministry” would come off as cheesy. but in the end, we decided to keep it parallel to Tony Jones’ “postmodern youth ministry” (shoot, Tony and Ivy even worked at the same church!).

]]> By: pastor draven http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2005/02/20/postmodern-childrens-ministry/#comment-1761 pastor draven Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:51:52 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=200#comment-1761 Hmmm... Now I want to read <i>The Purpose Driven Life</i> just so I can write the book (kind of real and a satire at the same time), <i>The Pomo-Driven Life</i>. Or perhaps just a chapter of my current book for now. What about <i>40 days of Pomo</i>? These really would be a great starting ground for satire, and yet kind of a fun way to show a new way at the same time. Hmmm… Now I want to read The Purpose Driven Life just so I can write the book (kind of real and a satire at the same time), The Pomo-Driven Life. Or perhaps just a chapter of my current book for now. What about 40 days of Pomo? These really would be a great starting ground for satire, and yet kind of a fun way to show a new way at the same time.

]]> By: krystofer http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2005/02/20/postmodern-childrens-ministry/#comment-1706 krystofer Mon, 21 Feb 2005 04:26:45 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=200#comment-1706 i would've been scared off by the title myself, but that quote just hits so many points so well. and by the way... nice fictional book titles, they're probably not that far off... i would’ve been scared off by the title myself, but that quote just hits so many points so well.
and by the way… nice fictional book titles, they’re probably not that far off…

]]> By: Sivin Kit http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2005/02/20/postmodern-childrens-ministry/#comment-1700 Sivin Kit Mon, 21 Feb 2005 02:51:09 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=200#comment-1700 you are right about the danger of "marketing" gimmicks especially when it comes to branding :-) and yet, I've learnt to look beyond that. Checking out Ivy's Website was a good start. Now I've regreted not getting that copy entitled "postmodern youth ministry" by Tony Jones that I saw last year. . Let's keep on learning together. you are right about the danger of “marketing” gimmicks especially when it comes to branding :-) and yet, I’ve learnt to look beyond that. Checking out Ivy’s Website was a good start. Now I’ve regreted not getting that copy entitled “postmodern youth ministry” by Tony Jones that I saw last year. . Let’s keep on learning together.

]]> By: kansas http://www.somestrangeideas.com/2005/02/20/postmodern-childrens-ministry/#comment-1696 kansas Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:42:34 +0000 http://www.subvergence.org/wordpress/?p=200#comment-1696 I thought pretty much the same thing last fall. I saw the title and hoped the trend would die. But the quote does a good job of selling the point that Children's Ministry has some questionable commercialism. But don't you dare tell me that Psalty the Singing Songbook isn't still an amazingly effective ministry tool. I thought pretty much the same thing last fall. I saw the title and hoped the trend would die. But the quote does a good job of selling the point that Children’s Ministry has some questionable commercialism. But don’t you dare tell me that Psalty the Singing Songbook isn’t still an amazingly effective ministry tool.

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