Comments on: umm…what about monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday, and saturday?

By: Matt

Matt — Wed, 31 May 2006 02:36:34 +0000

I like what you’re thinking… I reflected on it here.

We’ve been wrestling with similar issues. Once I get the stuff we’re doing out of manuscript and into PDF I’ll pass it along if you want.

Grace and Peace -

::Matt Thomas

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By: tk

tk — Tue, 30 May 2006 15:43:56 +0000

Thanks for the post. I have been wrestling with the same kinds of questions.
your questions have been really helpful in triggering more thoughts for me. Below is the stream consciousness that came out of your questions…

what if we occasionally cancelled Sunday morning and as a local community went and did something, you know as the hands and feet of Christ?

What if Sunday morning was “learn by doing time?”
Maybe a given Sunday Morning was all prayer? Not a message about why we should pray or exegeting great prayers of the bible but the whole community actually praying? Something we are supposed to do without ceasing gets center stage…

I think saying it over and over is a good idea also. In addition to saying it, what if we took a sunday morning and asked the question to the community how can we make Sunday morning part of your journey instead Sunday morning being the journey?

thanks again really good thought provoking stuff.

By: Adam

Adam — Mon, 29 May 2006 19:40:12 +0000

The reason why most churches revolve around Sunday morning is because that’s what their foundation is built on. In my blog awhile back, I showed the diagrams that I made that were based on Dan Kimball’s book “Emerging Worship”. I will try and find the link. I know Andrew Jones posted it on his blog too.

By: Gary

Gary — Mon, 29 May 2006 07:38:59 +0000

Can we define success in (C)church? We are called to bear the cross. In the human scenarios, people who suffer and die are failures. And yet we are supposed to be faithful to that story by living it out ourselves.

By: john

john — Sun, 28 May 2006 05:11:26 +0000

I’m the one asking the questions…you’re supposed to have the answers!

It does seem like there should be some way to define what you want the community, whether that be the individuals or the whole, to become, and then find ways to measure that.

By: Chris

Chris — Sun, 28 May 2006 04:08:34 +0000

I think we must re-define what success is…Maybe success is not just how many folks showed up to listen to a speaker and worship leader.

Maybe the question we need to ask is not how many folks came on Sunday…But, how did they live the other six days. Of course that poses other questions.

Therefore, what are some other “vital signs” that we can track other then numbers and giving?

By: eric

eric — Sat, 27 May 2006 19:49:30 +0000

Great post. The church cannot be the church if it is only focused on Sunday Morning.

I have become a great fan of http://www.servantevangelism.com (not my site). It gives very practical ways for the church to reach out to others in very practical ways.